Pluralistic: A tale of three customer service chatbots (12 Nov 2025)


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A queue of people in 1950s garb, colorized in garish tones, waiting for a wicket with a sign labeled SERVICE. Behind the counter stands a male figure in a suit whose head has been replaced with a set of chattering teeth.

A tale of three customer service chatbots (permalink)

AI can't do your job, but an AI salesman can convince your boss to fire you and replace you with an AI that can't do your job. Nowhere is that more true than in customer service:

https://pluralistic.net/2025/08/06/unmerchantable-substitute-goods/#customer-disservice

Customer service is a pure cost center for companies, and the best way to reduce customer service costs is to make customer service so terrible that people simply give up. For decades, companies have outsourced their customer service to overseas call centers with just that outcome in mind. Workers in overseas call centers are given a very narrow slice of authority to solve your problem, and are also punished if they solve too many problems or pass too many callers onto a higher tier of support that can solve the problem. They aren't there to solve the problem – they're there to take the blame for the problem. They're "accountability sinks":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unaccountability_Machine

It's worse than that, though. Call centers cheap out on long distance service, trading off call quality and reliability to save a few pennies. The fact that you can't hear the person on the other end of the line clearly, and that your call is randomly disconnected, sending you to the back of the hold queue? That's a feature, not a bug.

In a recent article for The Atlantic about his year-long quest to get Toyota to honor its warranty on his brand-new car, Chris Colin describes the suite of tactics that companies engage in to exhaust your patience so that you just go away and stop trying to get your refund, warranty exchange or credit, branding them "sludge":

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/06/customer-service-sludge/683340/

Colin explores the historical antecedants for this malicious, sludgy compliance, including (hilariously) the notorious Simple Sabotage Field Manual, a US military guide designed for citizens in Nazi-occupied territories, detailing ways that they can seem to do their jobs while actually slowing everything down and ensuring nothing gets done:

https://www.cia.gov/static/5c875f3ec660e092cf893f60b4a288df/SimpleSabotage.pdf

In an interview with the 99 Percent Invisible podcast's Roman Mars, Colin talks about the factors that emboldened companies to switch from these maddening, useless, frustrating outsource call centers to chatbots:

https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/644-your-call-is-important-to-us/

Colin says that during the covid lockdowns, companies that had to shut down their call centers switched to chatbots of various types. After the lockdowns lifted, companies surveyed their customers to see how they felt about this switch and received a resounding, unambiguous, FUCK THAT NOISE. Colin says that companies' response was, "What I hear you saying is that you hate this, but you'll tolerate it."

This is so clearly what has happened. No one likes to interact with a chatbot for customer service. I personally find it loathsome. I've had three notable recent experiences where I had to interact with a chatbot, and in two of them, the chatbot performed as a perfect accountability sink, a literal "Computer says no" machine. In the third case, the chatbot actually turned on its master.

The first case: I pre-booked a taxi for a bookstore event on my tour. 40 minutes before the car was due to arrive, I checked Google Maps' estimate of the drive time and saw that it had gone up by 45 minutes (Trump was visiting the city and they'd shut down many of the streets, creating a brutal gridlock). I hastily canceled the taxi and rebooked it for an immediate pickup, and I got an email telling me I was being charged a $10 cancellation fee, because I hadn't given an hour's notice of the change.

Naturally, the email came from a noreply@ address, but it had a customer service URL, which – after a multi-stage login that involved yet another email verification step – dumped me into a chatbot window. An instant after I sent my typed-out complaint, the chatbot replied that I had violated company policy and would therefore have to pay a $10 fine, and that was that. When I asked to be transferred to a human, the chatbot told me that wasn't possible.

So I logged into the app and used the customer support link there, and had the identical experience, only this time when I asked the chatbot to transfer me to a human, I was put in a hold queue. An hour later, I was still in it. I powered down my phone and went onstage and, well, that's $10 I won't see again. Score one for sludge. Score one for enshittification. All hail the accountability sink.

The second case: I'm on a book-tour and here's a thing they won't tell you about suitcases: they do not survive. I don't care if the case has a 10-year warranty, it will not survive more than 20-30 flights. The trick of the 10-year suitcase warranty is that 95% of the people who buy that suitcase take two or fewer flights per year, and if the suitcase disintegrates in a nine years instead of a decade, most people won't even think to apply for a warranty replacement. They'll just write it off.

But if you're a very frequent flier – if you get on (at least) one plane every day for a month and check a bag every time☨, that bag will absolutely disintegrate within a couple months.

☨ If you fly that often, you get your bag-check for free. In my experience, I only have a delayed or lost bag every 18 months or so (add a tracker and you can double that interval) and the convenience of having all your stuff with you when you land is absolutely worth the inconvenience of waiting a day or two every couple years to be reunited with your bag.

My big Solgaard case has had its wheels replaced twice, and the current set are already shot. But then the interior and one hinge disintegrated, so I contacted the company for a warranty swap, hoping to pick it up on a 36-hour swing through LA between Miami and Lisbon. They sent me a Fedex tracking code and I added it to my daily-load tab-group so I could check in on the bag's progress:

https://pluralistic.net/2024/01/25/today-in-tabs/#unfucked-rota

After 5 days, it was clear that something was wrong: there was a Fedex waybill, but the replacement suitcase hadn't been handed over to the courier. I emailed the Solgaard customer service address and a cheerful AI informed me that there was sometimes a short delay between the parcel being handed to the courier and it showing up in the tracker, but they still anticipated delivering it the next day. I wrote back and pointed out that this bag hadn't been shipped yet, and it was 3,000 miles from me, so there was no way they were going to deliver it in less than 24h. This got me escalated to a human, who admitted that I was right and promised to "flag the order with the warehouse." I'm en route to Lisbon now, and I don't have my suitcase. Score two for sludge!

The third case: Our kid started university this year! As a graduation present, we sent her on a "voluntourism" trip over the summer, doing some semi-skilled labor at a turtle sanctuary in Southeast Asia. That's far from LA and it was the first time she'd gone such a long way on her own. Delays in the first leg of her trip – to Hong Kong – meant that she missed her connection, which, in turn, meant getting re-routed through Singapore, with the result that she arrived more than 14 hours later than originally planned.

We tried contacting the people who ran the project, but they were offline. Earlier, we'd been told that there was no way to directly message the in-country team who'd be picking up our kid, just a Whatsapp group for all the participants. It quickly became clear that there was no one monitoring this group. It was getting close to when our kid would touch down, and we were getting worried, so my wife tried the chatbot on the organization's website.

After sternly warning us that it was not allowed to give us the contact number for the in-country lead who would be picking up our daughter, it then cheerfully spat out that forbidden phone number. This was the easiest AI jailbreak in history. We literally just said, "Aw, c'mon, please?" and it gave us that private info. A couple text messages later, we had it all sorted out.

This is a very funny outcome: the support chatbot sucked, but in a way that turned out to be advantageous to us. It did that thing that outsource call centers were invented to prevent: it actually helped us.

But this one is clearly an outlier. It was a broken bot. I'm sure future iterations will be much more careful not to help…if they can help it.

(Image: Cryteria, CC BY 3.0, modified)

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